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Problem with converting .TIF to .JPEG

Post by mniuser »

Hi Everyone,

I am just trying to convert a set of .TIF file to .JPEG...in this process I am facing some problems....Request your help.

Problem 1 --> Images with white background are getting converted to black background.
Problem 2 --> For some Images. two output files are being generated instead of one (one being just thumbnail and other one is actual file).

Command I am using is :: convert 1.tif 1.jpeg

and i have tried below options as well but no luck.

convert 1.tif -quality 100 -background white 1.jpeg


Any help would be highly appreciated, sorry if my query is very basic....I am new to ImageMagick.

Thanks
MN
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Re: Problem with converting .TIF to .JPEG

Post by fmw42 »

Tiff can have multiple frames or resolutions. So if you just want one output image, use:

convert image.tif[0] image.jpg

Presumably this first "frame" is the full resolution one.


Some tif files have min as white rather than min as black. Post a link to your image or post the results of identify -verbose image.tif.

Also see http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/formats/#tiff


toggle the photometric interpretation (Added IM 6.3.2-10)
-define quantum:polarity=min-is-black
-define quantum:polarity=min-is-white
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Re: Problem with converting .TIF to .JPEG

Post by mniuser »

Thanks a lot for your quick response... not able to share the image file...please find the results of -identify verbose below for the two TIF files for which i am facing problem to convert .

I have tried both the options '-define quantum:polarity=min-is-black' & '-define quantum:polarity=min-is-white' but no luck.

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For the Image:: APP_Fireball.tif

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Image: APP_Fireball.tif

Format: TIFF (Tagged Image File Format)

Class: DirectClass

Geometry: 491x280

Type: PaletteMatte

Endianess: MSB

Colorspace: RGB

Channel depth:

Red: 8-bits

Green: 8-bits

Blue: 8-bits

Alpha: 8-bits

Channel statistics:

Red:

Min: 0 (0)

Max: 234 (0.917647)

Mean: 47.4686 (0.186151)

Standard deviation: 90.698 (0.355678)

Green:

Min: 0 (0)

Max: 154 (0.603922)

Mean: 16.8877 (0.0662264)

Standard deviation: 41.8025 (0.163931)

Blue:

Min: 0 (0)

Max: 149 (0.584314)

Mean: 17.4056 (0.0682574)

Standard deviation: 40.9766 (0.160692)

Alpha:

Min: 255 (1)

Max: 0 (0)

Mean: 54.6354 (0.214256)

Standard deviation: 104.391 (0.409376)

Alpha: ( 0, 0, 0,255) #000000FF

Colors: 110

Histogram:

3: ( 13, 2, 2,239) #0D0202EF

107787: ( 0, 0, 0,255) none

19: ( 53, 35, 34,222) #352322DE

44: ( 60, 33, 32,210) #3C2120D2

13: (102, 54, 53,174) #663635AE

5: (107, 50, 50,164) #6B3232A4

7: (100, 58, 57,184) #643A39B8

8: ( 68, 31, 31,198) #441F1FC6

5: ( 97, 64, 62,192) #61403EC0

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3: (155, 61, 63,107) #9B3D3F6B

1: (187, 62, 65, 61) #BB3E413D

3: (169, 63, 65, 89) #A93F4159

5: (155, 68, 68,114) #9B444472

65: (154, 74, 73,120) #9A4A4978

9: (154, 81, 80,126) #9A51507E

1: (167, 69, 70, 95) #A745465F

1: (179, 70, 72, 79) #B346484F

2: (187, 68, 70, 65) #BB444641

10: (187, 76, 77, 69) #BB4C4D45

19: (179, 77, 78, 84) #B34D4E54

9: (188, 83, 83, 73) #BC535349

2: (191, 92, 91, 75) #BF5C5B4B

4: (180, 85, 84, 87) #B4555457

2: (183, 93, 92, 90) #B75D5C5A

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6: (170, 84, 84,105) #AA545469

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3: (203, 53, 57, 29) #CB35391D

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5: (211, 58, 62, 14) #D33A3E0E

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5: (198, 63, 66, 43) #C63F422B

4: (206, 69, 71, 30) #CE45471E

1: (215, 67, 71, 11) #D743470B

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1: (215, 94, 95, 26) #D75E5F1A

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4: (219,144,140, 60) #DB908C3C

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1: (232,153,148, 23) #E8999417

7: (229,151,146, 34) #E5979222

4: (226,149,144, 46) #E295902E

1: (211,139,134, 76) #D38B864C

Rendering intent: Undefined

Resolution: 72x72

Units: PixelsPerInch

Filesize: 5.6e+02kb

Interlace: None

Background color: white

Border color: #DFDFDF00

Matte color: grey74

Page geometry: 491x280+0+0

Dispose: Undefined

Iterations: 0

Compression: None

Orientation: TopLeft

Signature: 0b2ef43bae6552c1e2ffc340900fede60c2ec6a07146ccca9b53e38465ea4dbf

Software: Adobe Photoshop CS3 Macintosh

Timestamp: 2007:10:26 10:53:08

Profile-iptc: 8 bytes

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unknown[2,0]:

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8BIM

Tainted: False

Version: ImageMagick 6.2.8 04/17/08 Q16 file:/usr/share/ImageMagick-6.2.8/doc/index.html


----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

For the Image:: Ambersand300x300.tif - for this Image everything is just getting converting in to white.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Image: Ambersand300x300.tif

Format: TIFF (Tagged Image File Format)

Class: DirectClass

Geometry: 300x300

Type: Bilevel

Endianess: MSB

Colorspace: Gray

Channel depth:

Gray: 1-bits

Alpha: 8-bits

Channel statistics:

Gray:

Min: 255 (1)

Max: 255 (1)

Mean: 255 (1)

Standard deviation: 0 (0)

Alpha:

Min: 255 (1)

Max: 0 (0)

Mean: 98.4801 (0.386196)

Standard deviation: 123.357 (0.483752)

Alpha: (255,255,255,255) #FFFFFFFF

Colors: 17

Histogram:

33920: (255,255,255, 0) white

159: (255,255,255, 13) #FFFFFF0D

117: (255,255,255, 29) #FFFFFF1D

84: (255,255,255, 45) #FFFFFF2D

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166: (255,255,255,239) #FFFFFFEF

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Interlace: None

Background color: white

Border color: #DFDFDF00

Matte color: grey74

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Dispose: Undefined

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identify: incorrect count for field "MinSampleValue" (1, expecting 4); tag ignored. `Ambersand300x300.tif'.

identify: incorrect count for field "MaxSampleValue" (1, expecting 4); tag ignored. `Ambersand300x300.tif'.


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Re: Problem with converting .TIF to .JPEG

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identify: incorrect count for field "MinSampleValue" (1, expecting 4); tag ignored. `Ambersand300x300.tif'.

identify: incorrect count for field "MaxSampleValue" (1, expecting 4); tag ignored. `Ambersand300x300.tif'.
Possibly due to these bad tags

Can you create an image that you can provide that has the same problem?
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Re: Problem with converting .TIF to .JPEG

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-identify verbose results i have pasted in my earlier reply is of two files (APP_Fireball.tif & Ambersand300x300.tif)...but the below error is there in only second file.
identify: incorrect count for field "MinSampleValue" (1, expecting 4); tag ignored. `Ambersand300x300.tif'.
.

is there a way i can share the images here......i dont see any option to share.
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Re: Problem with converting .TIF to .JPEG

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is there a way i can share the images here......i dont see any option to share.
You can post your images to any free image hosting site (do a google search). Then put a link to your files from where you host here in your message.

Also your version of IM at 6.2.8 is ancient (over 400 versions old). You would be advised to upgrade if you can. You might also upgrade your libtif and libjpeg delegate libraries, as IM relies upon them to do the conversions.
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Re: Problem with converting .TIF to .JPEG

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When i was trying to upload the images on image hosting sites there also images with white background are getting converted to black...not sure why is this happening.
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Re: Problem with converting .TIF to .JPEG

Post by mniuser »

Hi,

I have managed to upload the files now, please find the link below.

https://rapidshare.com/files/1664683076/Images.zip


Thanks a lot for your help in advance.
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Re: Problem with converting .TIF to .JPEG

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Just looking at your image 4x3_protected.tif, I see that the image is pure black, but the alpha channel has all the detail. This is a very odd way of doing it.

try this to see what I mean.

identify -verbose 4x3_protected.tif
Image: 4x3_protected.tif
Format: TIFF (Tagged Image File Format)
Class: DirectClass
Geometry: 1920x1080+0+0
Resolution: 72x72
Print size: 26.6667x15
Units: PixelsPerInch
Type: Bilevel
Base type: Bilevel
Endianess: MSB
Colorspace: RGB
Depth: 8-bit
Channel depth:
gray: 1-bit
alpha: 8-bit
Channel statistics:
Gray:
min: 0 (0)
max: 0 (0)
mean: 0 (0)

standard deviation: -0 (-0)
kurtosis: 0
skewness: 0
Alpha:
min: 0 (0)
max: 255 (1)
mean: 65.8573 (0.258264)
standard deviation: 110.7 (0.434117)
kurtosis: -0.763967
skewness: -1.10451

Then do:

convert 4x3_protected.tif -alpha off 4x3_protected_aoff.png
convert 4x3_protected.tif -alpha extract 4x3_protected_alpha.png

It looks like the alpha channel is what you want to convert to jpg.

convert 4x3_protected.tif -alpha extract 4x3_protected_alpha.jpg

Let me know about this one, before I look at the others.
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Re: Problem with converting .TIF to .JPEG

Post by mniuser »

Thanks a lot for your quick response.

Tried these option but didn't work....with these options black in TIF image is being converted in to white in JPEG and vice versa.

And one more thing the actual requirement is I need to convert around lakhs of TIF images to JPEG (TIF images are of both BLACK&WHITE and COLORED)...so I am trying to implement the script which should do the trick...hence I am looking for something generic which would work on both BLACK&WHITE and COLORED images.

If it is not possible to achieve my requirement through ImageMagick...is there any other way to achieve this ?

Thanks for the detailed explanation and for spending your precious time.
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Re: Problem with converting .TIF to .JPEG

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well lets deal with the first image. explain to me what it is that you expect. the image is being controlled by your alpha channel only. That is it has transparency. But jpg does not support transparency. So you must do something to flatten the alpha channel against some colored background. If you flatten against black you will see a totally black image the way you have your alpha channel set up. If you flatten against white, you get the negative of the alpha channel. So you can either do the flatten against white or extract the alpha channel and keep it or extract the alpha channel and -negate it.

Here I take your tif and resize it and convert to png. It looks the same as the tif image but smaller.

convert 4x3_protected.tif -resize 25% 4x3_protected.png
Image

convert 4x3_protected.tif -resize 25% -alpha extract 4x3_protected4_alpha.jpg
Image

convert 4x3_protected.tif -resize 25% -alpha extract -negate 4x3_protected4_alpha_neg.jpg
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convert 4x3_protected.tif -resize 25% -background white -flatten 4x3_protected4_white_flatten.jpg
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So what is it that you want for the result, if not one of the above?
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Re: Problem with converting .TIF to .JPEG

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Following link might help while converting from .TIF to .JPG

http://sourcecodemania.com/converting-m ... if-in-php/
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